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A: Absolutely not! The frame
gets its strength from the structure of folded sheet metal. The rust
always starts from the inside. Once rust holes appear on the outside, the
frame is unsafe to use! Any attempt to repair a rusted frame can only be a
cosmetic fix - it will NOT bring back the strength. Remember: The frame is
the backbone of the car. When this part is rusted away, you are an
endangered species driving this car!
Learn
more about the frame
A: Theoretically yes. If the
car meets the requirements of DOT and EPA it may be imported. However, the
authorities are not known to be helpful. Usually it turns out as a
nightmare to go through the USDA, EPA and Customs inspections and
paperwork. It is much less hassle and risk to purchase a 2CV that is
already in the US. Just make sure that the car comes with all needed
paperwork and was legally imported. There are shady elements who import
and sell cars without the proper documents - leaving you with an expensive
paperweight.
And remember: It is always highly recommended to inspect and test drive
the car before you buy.
A: Never! Every car looks nice
on a photo when it is waxed and buffed up. A photo showing the entire car
will not reveal dings, dents, scratches or rust spots. The problems you
can see on a photo are usually severe problems.
Always inspect the car yourself BEFORE you buy. You are the only judge if
the car meets your expectations. Even a money back guarantee by the seller
doesn't mean that you can really get your money back if you don't like the
car. Read the fine print and be suspicious. A money back guarantee until
you receive the car is worthless.
A: No, it never did. However,
the 2CV needs high-octane fuel. The lead was mainly used for the octane
rate. Today the oil companies use different additives to substitute lead
for the octane rate.
The other reason for lead as an additive was that it operated as a
mechanical buffer between the valves and the valve seats. This was very
important in old motors with steel cylinder heads. To save money, the
manufacturer milled the valve seats right into the cylinder heads. This
way the valve seat can't be tempered. To avoid the valve migrating into
the valve seat, the lead buffered the impact of the valve. The 2CV always
had a aluminum cylinder head with tempered valve seats.
Learn more about the gas quality
A: Actually the safety in a 2CV
is quite good. Despite the look and flimsy structure of the car, the 2CV
is surprisingly strong.
Modern cars mostly do the "Tank approach" - they are very heavy
and create their safety by being solid. If you have an accident between
these cars, it leads again to injuries. To avoid that problem, the
manufacturers install electronic gimmicks and tons of airbags. What they
all forget is that the most important piece of safety equipment is the one
behind the wheel!
The 2CV is very lightweight and has an incredible suspension. In an
accident the 2CV is just pushed away by the heavier vehicle. In a standard
accident scenario you have a heavy car against another heavy car. All
energy is transformed into deformation and injuries to the passengers. The
2CV however, just gives way by being pushed away. Just picture yourself
hitting a concrete wall with your fist - this really hurts. Now do the
same with a punching bag. The bag is soft and it gives way - nothing is
damaged and no injuries occur.
The 2CV body shell was designed exceptionally strong with a minimum of
material and weight. The passenger cabin has a rollover cage that holds
the cabin in shape even in a rollover accident. The frame was designed to
break in an accident. This directs the energy of the impact away from the
passengers. The front end is pushed upwards to absorb the energy. Motor
and transmission will not penetrate the passenger cabin. This is a factor
that leads to injuries and death in other cars.
In over 50 years of use, accidents are unavoidable. Experience proofs
that injuries or death are rare in 2CVs. The insurance companies in Europe
rate the 2CV as a very safe car. In Finland the 2CV was rated the safest
car ever.
A: All 2CVs with a disc brake
system may suffer from this. When Citroen converted their production lines
from the old drum brake system to the later disc brake system, a disc on
the main shaft gear assembly wasn't tightened with enough torque. This
allows the disc to wind off this gear assembly when you back up with a
high torque. The result is a transmission stuck in 3rd gear permanent. A
specialist can repair this - otherwise you have to replace the
transmission.
Learn more about this
A: You can find the complete
2CV Users Manual in english on our website. All pages were programmed in
HTML, not just a quick scan - so they are easy to read and print.
Go to the Users Manual
A: Unfortunately Citroen has no
dealer network in the US. So you have to rely on local Citroen clubs or
mechanics who are willing to learn something new. If you are skilled, you
can do a lot yourself. A good repair manual is the "Haynes Manual".
To learn about the technical background you can read the technical
articles on our website. These articles contain lots of valuable
information for repairs and maintenance. It always pays to know the
technical background. If you work on your own 2CV you will find the
information very helpful. In case you have to take your 2CV to a mechanic,
you can evaluate what they do - and if they do the job right.
Go to Technical articles
A: Absolutely not!!!! Citroen
used LHM as brake fluid in all 2CVs with disc brake system. This fluid is
a hydraulic mineral oil. DOT brake fluid is based on a total different
chemical substance. Each fluid dissolves the O-rings and gaskets of the
other system. Even a little amount of DOT brake fluid destroys the entire
LHM brake system - no exception!
Most mechanics don't know about the difference - so chances are that a
2CV you buy has the wrong brake fluid in the system. This always results
in a very expensive repair.
Learn more about this problem
A: There are many traps for a
novice 2CV buyer. The biggest problem is rust. Usually repairs are done
quick and dirty in a "Band Aid" way. Mechanics cut corners in so
called "restorations" in many ways. So beware - a dishonest
restoration will cost you big bucks at a later time.
Learn more about the typical cheesy jobs
A: Don't worry - just drive.
The 2CV was made for being use. It is absolutely safe to travel long
distances. If the car is well maintained it will take you anywhere without
any problem. Even if you discover a mechanical glitch - in almost every
case the 2CV will bring you back home, where you can fix it. The 2CV is
such a basic car; there is simply not much that can go wrong. Every modern
car is different. If you have a minor problem in a modern car, some
computer decides it's time to leave you stranded in the middle of the
night in the middle of nowhere. Not so the 2CV if you treat it well, it
will never let you down.
When it comes to a convenient ride - the 2CV offers unbeatable seat
comfort. After a long journey in most modern cars you feel tortured from a
hard seat and a stiff suspension. Doing the same trip in a 2CV, you arrive
fresh at your destination. It is so amazing how much you can get out of so
little.
A: The frame is a very
important and safety relevant part in the 2CV - after all it's the
backbone of the car. All galvanized frames are aftermarket parts. So quite
often they are built in a backyard production facility. We have seen
products that are very unreliable and unsafe and we have seen very well
designed frames. So it very much depends on the manufacturer. In general,
most aftermarket frames were illegal. The 2CV had gotten the type approval
in every country where it was sold with the genuine frame. This frame was
designed to carry the weight of the car and break in the right spot in
case of an accident. (See: Is the 2CV really a death trap in
case of an accident?) Only the genuine frame guarantees this. The
only problem with the genuine frame was the vulnerability for rust. Once
the frame was treated proper with grease this didn't matter anymore.
However, the genuine frame was now discontinued from Citroen. This means
that any new frame must be an aftermarket frame. The important thing to
ask for is the written Citroen approval for the frame you intend to use.
Only this guarantees that the frame is legal to use and that it complies
with the original Citroen specifications for stability and safety. Only a
very few manufacturers received this approval so far. When a frame is used
for a restoration that hasn't got this approval, you take the risk that
the frame doesn't break where and when it is supposed to. This may be
fatal for the passengers. Most restorers use these frames simply because
they are cheaper.
So don't be blinded by a nice and shiny galvanized frame, ask if the
frame was designed due to the original specifications and if it is
approved by Citroen.
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